0154動け動けウゴウゴ2ちゃんねる2014/03/25(火) 22:42:31.50ID:OtB1IGis0>>153 ウェブブラウザで板トップを開きブラウザのオプションでソース見てみな それに倣って書き換えるだけだからそれほど難しいことじゃない 0155Grape Ape ★2014/03/25(火) 22:42:48.35ID:???0>>153 I do think it is a mistake. I think that I should make one more board on the new nozomi server with the new rules. Then put a link on the head.txt of both boards. WIth, or without kotehan, etc. The etc is why I think people will leave your board. 0156動け動けウゴウゴ2ちゃんねる2014/03/25(火) 22:44:08.14ID:PJ7pevrZ0>>153 これを直して、Jimさんに送ればいいだけのこと http://awabi.2ch.net/news4plus/head.txt0157動け動けウゴウゴ2ちゃんねる2014/03/25(火) 22:44:26.74ID:/IztIf+/0>>147 very sorry, i do not understand. please could I have your better idea? 0158動け動けウゴウゴ2ちゃんねる2014/03/25(火) 22:45:40.82ID:bWt6S0TA0 板新設… ちょっと重要過ぎる発言なので、誰かちゃんと訳せる人英訳任せた↓ 0159動け動けウゴウゴ2ちゃんねる2014/03/25(火) 22:45:51.50ID:k0Zrug960 しかしこれ以上増やしても大変さばゃないか?
すでに800近くあるだろ それに記者制だから特異な例 0160Grape Ape ★2014/03/25(火) 22:47:12.37ID:???0>>156-157 My idea is http://nozomi.2ch.net/news4plus2/ With the new Local Rules. Half of you are going to leave. So let's let both halves have a place. 0161動け動けウゴウゴ2ちゃんねる2014/03/25(火) 22:47:25.84ID:OtB1IGis0>>158 Jim-san said, Siberia is a good place. I certainly think so too. :) 0162動け動けウゴウゴ2ちゃんねる2014/03/25(火) 22:48:16.99ID:0RLPnsY+0>>155 i see thank you so very much 0163動け動けウゴウゴ2ちゃんねる2014/03/25(火) 22:48:43.93ID:aIgiCraX0 ルール作りたいなら新しい板作れって事か はわわ 0164動け動けウゴウゴ2ちゃんねる2014/03/25(火) 22:49:16.57ID:OtB1IGis0>>159 既存の板に馴染めないなら別の板に移住してもいいんだよ 0165動け動けウゴウゴ2ちゃんねる2014/03/25(火) 22:50:12.41ID:PJ7pevrZ0>>160 > news4plus2 New board 0166動け動けウゴウゴ2ちゃんねる2014/03/25(火) 22:51:26.80ID:bFLCC1Y80 stupid 0167動け動けウゴウゴ2ちゃんねる2014/03/25(火) 22:51:30.80ID:pAuiP+tf0>>163 新しい板のルールにしましょうみたいな? 0168動け動けウゴウゴ2ちゃんねる2014/03/25(火) 22:51:50.85ID:9TsQBvk80 鏝用東亜と名無し東亜ってことか? 南北分割の瞬間か 0169動け動けウゴウゴ2ちゃんねる2014/03/25(火) 22:51:56.74ID:a1mMl6UN0 スマホ規制解除しろFuck'n Jim P2も使えなきゃ意味ねえんだよ 0170動け動けウゴウゴ2ちゃんねる2014/03/25(火) 22:52:24.62ID:k0Zrug960>>164 いちいち増やしてたらコテの有無で単純に考えても二倍になるぞ 0171動け動けウゴウゴ2ちゃんねる2014/03/25(火) 22:53:33.87ID:/IztIf+/0>>155 thanks i understand your idea. nozomi server will make great changes in 2ch historiy. we had better wait a minute. 0172動け動けウゴウゴ2ちゃんねる2014/03/25(火) 22:53:47.26ID:OtB1IGis0>>170 最終的には自鯖でやれというのが今までの解答例だったんだがね 0173動け動けウゴウゴ2ちゃんねる2014/03/25(火) 22:55:21.46ID:9TsQBvk80>>170 これは特例だろ 東亜の勢いを削ぐのは惜しいって判断じゃね 資産価値はまあまあ高い方かもしれんし 0174動け動けウゴウゴ2ちゃんねる2014/03/25(火) 22:56:24.88ID:/IztIf+/0 何か東亜のLRをお願いしようと来たら、2chの大きな変化を聞かされた気がします。
その認識でいいんですよね?ここにいる人、みなさんそういうことですよね(´・ω・`)? 0175動け動けウゴウゴ2ちゃんねる2014/03/25(火) 22:57:02.51ID:8b/j6H310>>155 No. We think the integration and abolition of the boards. depopulation is progressing in the new boards. 0176動け動けウゴウゴ2ちゃんねる2014/03/25(火) 22:59:54.20ID:6n4Nj3vi0>>174 ずいぶん前からその話は出ていたけどな 0177動け動けウゴウゴ2ちゃんねる2014/03/25(火) 23:00:47.56ID:aIgiCraX0 判断材料にする為の投票が割れてるんだからJimがそう判断するのも分からんでもない 0178[´・ω・`]p4b14ba.tokynt01.ap.so-net.ne.jp2014/03/25(火) 23:00:47.86ID:sjt4EZq10 ハゲロックがいつまでたっても規制解除してくれないからおーぷんに移住するは さよなら 0179Grape Ape ★2014/03/25(火) 23:00:54.02ID:???0>>138,143 すみーません http://nozomi.2ch.net/test/read.cgi/rcomic/1385777191/ わからない。 0180動け動けウゴウゴ2ちゃんねる2014/03/25(火) 23:02:55.60ID:aDZ7Zncv0 I think the idea of Jim is good, but the burden of reporters than increase it? Reporters should was not enough now
ジムさんのアイディアはいいと思いますが、記者の負担が大きくなるのでは? 今は記者が足りてなかったはずです 0181動け動けウゴウゴ2ちゃんねる2014/03/25(火) 23:03:23.18ID:oIAGzcZg0 まあ票が割れたのは2chで最も人口の多い2板(news4vip,livejupiter)とpovertyを排除したからだからねえ そいつらが入ってたら5対1くらいにはなる 0182動け動けウゴウゴ2ちゃんねる2014/03/25(火) 23:03:42.60ID:bWt6S0TA0 I seems that >>133 is asking for Must a place for discussing to change ID settings of the board be inside of the board itself? 0183動け動けウゴウゴ2ちゃんねる2014/03/25(火) 23:04:12.76ID:DSeNzeNs0>>160 TOUA (news4plus) board requires a reporter cap (φ★) to make a thread.
What are you going to do with the New board (news4plus2)?
1) Copy the reporter cap from news4plus to news4plus2 and same reporter will make a thread for news4plus2 2) Assign a new Editor in Chief (a person who can issue a reporter cap) and get some new reporter to make threads in news4plus2. 3) Make news4plus2 board that anybody with Ronin or ● can make a thread. 4) No restriction to make a thread. 0184動け動けウゴウゴ2ちゃんねる2014/03/25(火) 23:04:13.33ID:OEFfutRr0 投票内容通りにさっくりコテハン禁止雑談禁止だけ追加して、ささっと申請すりゃ良かったんだよなあw AA、メ欄、何でもかんでも禁止禁止じゃあ、かなり歪なLRだし。そりゃあ変更も躊躇しちゃうでしょ。 0185動け動けウゴウゴ2ちゃんねる2014/03/25(火) 23:04:28.85ID:9HvfOl020 記事はミラーとかじゃダメか? 手抜きか 0186動け動けウゴウゴ2ちゃんねる2014/03/25(火) 23:04:41.43ID:/IztIf+/0>>179 one question OK?
if TOUA split TOUAwithKOTEHAN between TOUAwithoutKOTEHAN , what would you do KISYA(記者)?? 0187動け動けウゴウゴ2ちゃんねる2014/03/25(火) 23:04:58.82ID:C8HdTnAb0>>179 以前規制歴のある荒らしが延々と漫画キャラの台詞を連投するので、自治スレが機能していないんです。
★100127 複数板 「ドラゴンボール│ドラクエ」埋め立て荒らし http://qb5.2ch.net/test/read.cgi/sec2chd/1264573569/ ★100129 複数板 「○○を仲間にしたい」埋め立て荒らし http://qb5.2ch.net/test/read.cgi/sec2chd/1264691526/0188動け動けウゴウゴ2ちゃんねる2014/03/25(火) 23:05:44.07ID:k0Zrug960>>179 troll seems to post meaningless words on the thread to disturb discussion 0189動け動けウゴウゴ2ちゃんねる2014/03/25(火) 23:06:42.77ID:OtB1IGis0>>184 申請時に個人的な希望も盛り込んじゃう自治荒らしの類だな そして思い通りにならないと逆切れするから始末が悪い>>1740190Grape Ape ★2014/03/25(火) 23:06:56.64ID:???0>>182 そうです。Autonomy thread, おねがいします。 0191動け動けウゴウゴ2ちゃんねる2014/03/25(火) 23:08:28.51ID:/IztIf+/0>>189 一応言っておきますが、投票後のスレで具体的なLR案AとBが出て、Aが大勢だったので、Aに決まっただけの話ですよ 0192動け動けウゴウゴ2ちゃんねる2014/03/25(火) 23:10:14.86ID:lK/8AAYw0 /⌒~~~⌒\ ( ,,) (,,・Д・) / ( ゚?>t?≡ )y─┛~~ 〜(___ノ 〜(___ノ ,γ_ (_ ノγ U ∩_∩) THANK YOU 2ch ┌───────┐ \ α___J _J and (| ● ● | ヽ / ̄ ̄ ̄ ̄\ GOOD-BYE 2ch WORLD! /.| .┌▽▽▽▽┐ .|____|__||_| )) / ● ●、 ( ┤ .| | .|□━□ ) |Y Y \ またどこかで会おうね \. .└△△△△┘ .| J |) |.| | .▼ | | \あ\ | ∀ ノ | \/ _人|∧∧∩゛冫、 .∧_∧ | \り.\ . | - ′ | _/)/)/( ゚Д゚)/ ` . (´∀` )..ヽ(´ー`)ノ \が\ . | ) \ / 〔/\〕 U / ∩∩ ( ) (___) \と.\ .|/ | | | c(*・_・) | |ヽ(´ー`)ノ_| | | | |〜 /\.\う\| (-_-) (__)_) UUUU /∪∪ (___)(_(__) ◎ ̄ ̄◎─┘ .└──┘.(∩∩) 0193動け動けウゴウゴ2ちゃんねる2014/03/25(火) 23:11:50.92ID:OtB1IGis0>>191 記者制の板でコテハン禁止というのがそもそもおかしな話だ馬鹿野郎 記者キャップこそ貸与されてから剥奪されるまで不変の固定ハンドルだろうが さっさと巣に帰って泣きながら糞たれて寝ろ 0194動け動けウゴウゴ2ちゃんねる2014/03/25(火) 23:12:10.24ID:JxsmhmPj0 East asia is a +board, which means only Caps can make threads. You can't split the Caps, and it's not that those who want to change the LR hate it all, they just want to get rid of a lot of tripfags that have been ignoring the LR and ruining the board. So the reinforced LR might help change the atmosphere, though I doubt it's going to change alot. 0195動け動けウゴウゴ2ちゃんねる2014/03/25(火) 23:14:03.04ID:oIAGzcZg0 ニュー速とか設定壊れる前の嫌儲みたいな強制名無しにすれば、雑談する有象無象コテは消えるやろ BEで自己主張するのまでは知らん 0196動け動けウゴウゴ2ちゃんねる2014/03/25(火) 23:14:44.46ID:bcpOQvbd0>>193 感情的な表現はいかがなものでしょう 0197動け動けウゴウゴ2ちゃんねる2014/03/25(火) 23:15:08.26ID:/IztIf+/0>>193 ここは運用板です。 罵り合いがしたいなら、東亜の自治スレでどうぞ ついでに私はJIMさんの決定に従いますよ、コテ雑談ありとなしが平和に分割するならば、それのどこに問題がありますか? スレ立てと記者制度を板を分割しても運営できるなら、素晴らしい提案でしょう 違いますか? 0198動け動けウゴウゴ2ちゃんねる2014/03/25(火) 23:16:14.13ID:6n4Nj3vi0 板分割なんて一言も書いていない思うが? 0199動け動けウゴウゴ2ちゃんねる2014/03/25(火) 23:17:25.71ID:k0Zrug960>>198 いや、書いてあるだろ 0200動け動けウゴウゴ2ちゃんねる2014/03/25(火) 23:18:54.45ID:OtB1IGis0>>196 受け答えの仕方を聞き分けのない相手に合わせただけだけどな
>>197 記者キャップそのものがコテハン禁止に引っ掛かるだろという話 記者だけコテハンじゃないとかとんでも理論は無しだ 0201動け動けウゴウゴ2ちゃんねる2014/03/25(火) 23:19:05.31ID:D3k5HMoQ0 経緯みたが東亜は差別発言多い上にニュース系なら他にもある ここでもグチグチ言うならニュース板でなく雑談系に送れ 自治が機能してないんだからそこで死ぬまで雑談してろ それが嫌ならちゃんと自治しろ。出来なきゃ懲罰板行きでいいだろ 0202動け動けウゴウゴ2ちゃんねる2014/03/25(火) 23:19:53.42ID:6n4Nj3vi0>>199 どこに? 0203Grape Ape ★2014/03/25(火) 23:23:36.72ID:???0>>183 Yes, we could make it liberal right wing for a while. Maybe using BE and Ronin to make threads at the start. That way it won't fall so fast. >>194 Don't worry, we will change the rules on your board, but we will make the new board with the old rules that the "trip" people can use. What do you think guys? 0204動け動けウゴウゴ2ちゃんねる2014/03/25(火) 23:24:14.06ID:k0Zrug960>>202 コテ無し板を新しく作るってことは事実上分割でしょ 0205動け動けウゴウゴ2ちゃんねる2014/03/25(火) 23:26:20.98ID:bFLCC1Y80 愚かなり 0206動け動けウゴウゴ2ちゃんねる2014/03/25(火) 23:26:51.97ID:bWt6S0TA0 超適当翻訳
The circumstances of discussion for rcomic board. ID:C8HdTnAb0 said.
It has been said that 2ch maybe has too boards. 0209動け動けウゴウゴ2ちゃんねる2014/03/25(火) 23:27:44.72ID:6n4Nj3vi0>>204 >>203を読むと板分割というか、新たなルールの新板ができるみたいだね 0210動け動けウゴウゴ2ちゃんねる2014/03/25(火) 23:28:29.19ID:3fkqH59i0>>136 >>102 や>>118 の申請時に改めてBoard URL を書いてないから どの話?ってなりやすい気はする
こちらの流れのまとめを併記しておけば HTMLの記述チェックぐらいで審査が早くなるかもだし 0211動け動けウゴウゴ2ちゃんねる2014/03/25(火) 23:29:24.06ID:OtB1IGis0 東亜民は大東亜戦争がしたいだけで新開地を求めてるわけじゃない気がするけどな 0212動け動けウゴウゴ2ちゃんねる2014/03/25(火) 23:30:56.49ID:pAuiP+tf0 東亜の自治スレでやってろよ 0213動け動けウゴウゴ2ちゃんねる2014/03/25(火) 23:31:22.93ID:aDZ7Zncv0 古い板はルール変更して、新しい板はコテハン可、浪人やBEでスレ立て可能にするでいいのかな? 0214Grape Ape ★2014/03/25(火) 23:31:59.41ID:???0>>208 The small boards are niches, they have their place. However news4plus is rather large. I personally feel news4plus should be 18+ and on Pink Channel. However I know my personal feelings are not in the rest of the community's feelings. So when I put the new local rule on tomorrow. I will make the other board with the original local rules. No reporters required. Just Be points or Ronin. Tomorrow I will update news4plus local rules, and give an alternative. 0215動け動けウゴウゴ2ちゃんねる2014/03/25(火) 23:32:02.24ID:6n4Nj3vi0 If you make a new board for news, it will not succeed if you can get users who have a energy to discuss regional affairs in East asia. 0216動け動けウゴウゴ2ちゃんねる2014/03/25(火) 23:34:04.53ID:w1rzRi2w0>>213 jimはそう言ってる 0217動け動けウゴウゴ2ちゃんねる2014/03/25(火) 23:34:13.04ID:JxsmhmPj0>>203 You mean you'll make a new board for the trip people and ones with BE and Ronin that can make threads? I don't know about that. And it's not my board, I just made an quick observation. 0218Grape Ape ★2014/03/25(火) 23:34:44.24ID:???0>>215 I am actually happy if that board does not succeed. I will change the rules though just like you guys voted for. I will make you happy...:) 0219動け動けウゴウゴ2ちゃんねる2014/03/25(火) 23:34:45.43ID:/IztIf+/0>>213 トリップで建てる古いルールが適用される新しい板を作るだと思います 0220動け動けウゴウゴ2ちゃんねる2014/03/25(火) 23:36:05.18ID:aIgiCraX0 なんか想像の斜め上を行く展開だわ 0221動け動けウゴウゴ2ちゃんねる2014/03/25(火) 23:36:38.49ID:aDZ7Zncv0>>214 I think that is a good judgment 0222動け動けウゴウゴ2ちゃんねる2014/03/25(火) 23:37:50.52ID:6n4Nj3vi0>>218 It depends on you. I want to see a new one which has a fresh air. We can change it if it will be boring. 0223動け動けウゴウゴ2ちゃんねる2014/03/25(火) 23:38:15.65ID:pAuiP+tf0 新しい板には人集まらないだろうなぁ 0224動け動けウゴウゴ2ちゃんねる2014/03/25(火) 23:38:55.54ID:/IztIf+/0>>218 let make changes what you want !! The result will take care of itself. 0225動け動けウゴウゴ2ちゃんねる2014/03/25(火) 23:40:31.40ID:z/jNTL+G0 キャップという存在自体がいらないと思うんだよね 誰でもスレを立てられるようなシステムにすれば棲み分けが出来るはず 0226動け動けウゴウゴ2ちゃんねる2014/03/25(火) 23:40:39.23ID:DSeNzeNs0>>203 Thank you for clarification. I will translate your answer for others to share.
> I personally feel news4plus should be 18+ and on Pink Channel.
I agree to this. There are many interesting news for 18+ in Asian countries, as you have to know. Manila, BKK, JKT are very fun. 0229Grape Ape ★2014/03/25(火) 23:44:39.70ID:???0>>221 どもありがとうございます。 0230Grape Ape ★2014/03/25(火) 23:46:51.45ID:???0>>224 はいわかります、あしたおわります。 0231動け動けウゴウゴ2ちゃんねる2014/03/25(火) 23:47:28.23ID:aIgiCraX0>>223 結局どちらか一方に人が集まりましたって結果になったならそれはそれで住人を納得させる目的を達したとも 0232動け動けウゴウゴ2ちゃんねる2014/03/25(火) 23:47:45.31ID:/IztIf+/0>>229 I think so . this is a great judgement(・∀・) 0233動け動けウゴウゴ2ちゃんねる2014/03/25(火) 23:47:56.32ID:OtB1IGis0>>225 板内の紛争が板跨ぎの紛争になるだけだよ 過去何度も見てきたν速系の派生や隔離の歴史そのもの 0234動け動けウゴウゴ2ちゃんねる2014/03/25(火) 23:49:17.51ID:IazVwTjh0>>225 それこそ懐かしのニュー速でやれじゃね 0235動け動けウゴウゴ2ちゃんねる2014/03/25(火) 23:49:19.94ID:2Q5THzdr0 まあ無難なやり方かもしれないけど一度作るとなかなか消せないからなあ
ニュース系だけでかなりあるぞ 0236動け動けウゴウゴ2ちゃんねる2014/03/25(火) 23:50:04.30ID:PJ7pevrZ0>>233 そこで、931の復活ですよ 0237動け動けウゴウゴ2ちゃんねる2014/03/25(火) 23:51:05.92ID:OtB1IGis0>>236 あれは負荷が高いうえに削除スキルとの兼ね合いがあってダメだ 0238動け動けウゴウゴ2ちゃんねる2014/03/25(火) 23:56:22.47ID:okRQDNBg0 Now some users ( perhaps users of Kenmo board ) join the discussion of self-government of other board, and I think that , perhaps, they are leading argument by the way of Sockpuppet, for voting. And the result of that vote is accepted by administrator of " 2ch ". by this, default name and local rule of the boards were changed in the most part of "2ch". Some of the proofs of that are the result of "Hissi checker" scan of voting-thread, or log of the thread of vote-maneuvering on Kenmo board.
However, they insist , like this " this is the fair way that Jim-san accepts! ". And they do not listen to the objection in the self-government argument of other boards. Seriously, sometimes, intimidation is carried out for "the person who advocated objection" by them. For example, the survey of " the personal information of the person who advocated objection " and the disclosing that are carried out by the users of " Kenmo board".( I think that this is criminal act in Japanese society. )
I think that " self-government argument thread" on each board is to decide local rule of the board.
Therefore, about the case of this time like the maneuvering ( sockpuppeting ) , or the change of local rule by that non-normalcy way, you ( administrator ) think that is an act of "laying waste", don't you?
In addition, few particular users, except them, force one-sided rule on the whole users, can you say " this is the democracy ( match the democracy Jim-san insist ) "? Many unique users of "2ch"( ordinary 2channelers ) ignore Sockpuppets behavior. One of the reasons " ordinary 2channelers don't want to get involved in troublesome ". Another reason, " Many 2channeler believe the freedom of internet, and they think that even though some people spoofing users of other board and write to 2ch, that is freedom."
However, about the vote that was performed by users of KENMO board and some users who were controlled by KENMO, they report the result of that with saying "This is the completely legitimate vote, according to the democratic principle of the board." And it is the present conditions that the result is uncritically accepted by manager( Owner ) of "2ch".
I think that you can confirm this, even the board with a little number of unique users. I hope to manager(Owner), please confirm this " lay waste " act, and please do a lot of effort to keep good usability of "2ch", for us, or for yourself. 0239動け動けウゴウゴ2ちゃんねる2014/03/25(火) 23:56:31.33ID:IazVwTjh0>>236 考慮するにしても、お止め隊や削除人なんかの運営体制が整ってからじゃないの 0240動け動けウゴウゴ2ちゃんねる2014/03/25(火) 23:57:52.92ID:2Q5THzdr0>>238 あのさ、何回持ってくんのその話
Afikasu draws too many AAs or pictures of "penis". Thats awful and makes me sick. A lady would have disease. Please clean up the monsters, Afikasu and their works.
Best regards 0243Grape Ape ★2014/03/26(水) 00:03:34.50ID:???0>>242 They are very interested in that subject. 0244Grape Ape ★2014/03/26(水) 00:10:43.06ID:???0>>238 You are right, and I have been looking at those threads when I make changes. If the change doesn't make sense to me, then I have not been doing it. I think the news4plus was a real election though. Don't you? I understand both sides of that issue, and can see the pros and the cons. I suspect that the change might be beneficial for that board, but the 41% that didn't agree will need a place to go, and I don't want them to move into other boards if I can help it. I would like them to have their own special board with their old rules. 0245動け動けウゴウゴ2ちゃんねる2014/03/26(水) 00:20:36.26ID:TcvK1Qo/0>>244 I think not resolved by the division of the board, because guys just want to personal attacks. 0246あひるちゃん ◆2gpD9lKn5TVE 2014/03/26(水) 00:22:15.83ID:lRCHvdMD0 JIMは設定変更後に問題があるなら再度調整してくれるスタンスだから 狂乱が去り、尚も問題が有るならば再度ゆっくり板で話し合って申請すりゃいい。 一発で理想の状態にならないなら何度か試せばいいだけ 0247[´・ω・`]KD182249242140.au-net.ne.jp2014/03/26(水) 00:24:28.53ID:vw4SGq/60 かきこめん 0248[´・ω・`]KD182249240004.au-net.ne.jp2014/03/26(水) 00:25:41.65ID:h07AQ8Zi0 巻き添え対策 はよ 0249動け動けウゴウゴ2ちゃんねる2014/03/26(水) 00:26:37.57ID:TcvK1Qo/0 Jim-san These raptores are the ringleaders of madness. 0250Grape Ape ★2014/03/26(水) 00:29:23.05ID:???0>>246 Experimenting is good. Yes they want to argue. I see that...:) I will make their change tomorrow if it doesn't work out, it can be changed again. 0251Grape Ape ★2014/03/26(水) 00:32:01.98ID:???0>>249 They are definite predators. Hunters with blood lust. I have hidden my copy of The Diary of Anne Frank. 0252Army Board Liaison officer ◆kHiXISPRyw 2014/03/26(水) 00:37:53.63ID:1X72Nu9F0>>120 Good evening Sir! General Jim-san! Arrving at operate, on behalf of 予備政治士官 ◆MVChfC0L7Y Sir!