このスレはピンクちゃんねるCEOで現2ch掌握者、ジムさんと英語でお話しようスレです
英語できる人はできれば英語で書いてくださいな
ジムさんはとってもやさしいので、文法とか単語のつづりが「かなり間違ってる」英語でも
きっとわかってくれますよん
念のため日本語の原文を添えてもらえれば状況に応じて支援あるかも
英語はどうしても無理って人は日本語で
文法が整ってる簡単な日本語はジムさんが翻訳して読んでくれるかも
※:機械翻訳だけを書いても意味不明な場合がほとんどです
機械翻訳の場合日本語を添えると優しい人が翻訳してくれるかもしれません
※.立派な英文投函される方も日本語で本意を示しておくことを推奨(蚊帳の外ゲーム強行?)
Jim-san cap handles;
xerxes.maido3.net@Apparently admin ★
酉割れの話もあるので現在はvip40011.maido3.netや
111.68.39.236(111.68.36.0/22)などでホンモノ表示を行っています
BBSPINKはこちら
Let's talk with Jim-san. Part30
http://pele.bbspink.com/test/read.cgi/erobbs/1394366678/
ジムさんとのお話以外の運用系の質問/雑談は下記スレなどで
質問・雑談スレ341@運用情報板
http://qb5.2ch.net/test/read.cgi/operate/1394704532/
前スレ
Let's talk with Jim-san in operate. ★16
http://qb5.2ch.net/test/read.cgi/operate/1395476217/
翻訳サイト
http://www.excite.co.jp/world/
http://honyaku.nifty.com/
http://translation.infoseek.ne.jp/
http://translate.weblio.jp/
http://translate.google.co.jp/
探検
Let's talk with Jim-san in operate. ★17
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1動け動けウゴウゴ2ちゃんねる
2014/03/25(火) 13:31:04.48ID:/FEKSaAp02014/03/25(火) 23:04:28.85ID:9HvfOl020
記事はミラーとかじゃダメか?
手抜きか
手抜きか
2014/03/25(火) 23:04:41.43ID:/IztIf+/0
>>179
one question OK?
if TOUA split TOUAwithKOTEHAN between TOUAwithoutKOTEHAN ,
what would you do KISYA(記者)??
one question OK?
if TOUA split TOUAwithKOTEHAN between TOUAwithoutKOTEHAN ,
what would you do KISYA(記者)??
187動け動けウゴウゴ2ちゃんねる
2014/03/25(火) 23:04:58.82ID:C8HdTnAb0 >>179
以前規制歴のある荒らしが延々と漫画キャラの台詞を連投するので、自治スレが機能していないんです。
★100127 複数板 「ドラゴンボール│ドラクエ」埋め立て荒らし
http://qb5.2ch.net/test/read.cgi/sec2chd/1264573569/
★100129 複数板 「○○を仲間にしたい」埋め立て荒らし
http://qb5.2ch.net/test/read.cgi/sec2chd/1264691526/
以前規制歴のある荒らしが延々と漫画キャラの台詞を連投するので、自治スレが機能していないんです。
★100127 複数板 「ドラゴンボール│ドラクエ」埋め立て荒らし
http://qb5.2ch.net/test/read.cgi/sec2chd/1264573569/
★100129 複数板 「○○を仲間にしたい」埋め立て荒らし
http://qb5.2ch.net/test/read.cgi/sec2chd/1264691526/
188動け動けウゴウゴ2ちゃんねる
2014/03/25(火) 23:05:44.07ID:k0Zrug960 >>179
troll seems to post meaningless words on the thread to disturb discussion
troll seems to post meaningless words on the thread to disturb discussion
2014/03/25(火) 23:06:42.77ID:OtB1IGis0
190Grape Ape ★
2014/03/25(火) 23:06:56.64ID:???0 >>182
そうです。Autonomy thread, おねがいします。
そうです。Autonomy thread, おねがいします。
2014/03/25(火) 23:08:28.51ID:/IztIf+/0
>>189
一応言っておきますが、投票後のスレで具体的なLR案AとBが出て、Aが大勢だったので、Aに決まっただけの話ですよ
一応言っておきますが、投票後のスレで具体的なLR案AとBが出て、Aが大勢だったので、Aに決まっただけの話ですよ
192動け動けウゴウゴ2ちゃんねる
2014/03/25(火) 23:10:14.86ID:lK/8AAYw0 /⌒~~~⌒\ ( ,,) (,,・Д・)
/ ( ゚?>t?≡ )y─┛~~ 〜(___ノ 〜(___ノ ,γ_
(_ ノγ U ∩_∩) THANK YOU 2ch ┌───────┐ \
α___J _J and (| ● ● | ヽ
/ ̄ ̄ ̄ ̄\ GOOD-BYE 2ch WORLD! /.| .┌▽▽▽▽┐ .|____|__||_| ))
/ ● ●、 ( ┤ .| | .|□━□ )
|Y Y \ またどこかで会おうね \. .└△△△△┘ .| J |)
|.| | .▼ | | \あ\ | ∀ ノ
| \/ _人|∧∧∩゛冫、 .∧_∧ | \り.\ . | - ′
| _/)/)/( ゚Д゚)/ ` . (´∀` )..ヽ(´ー`)ノ \が\ . | )
\ / 〔/\〕 U / ∩∩ ( ) (___) \と.\ .|/
| | | c(*・_・) | |ヽ(´ー`)ノ_| | | | |〜 /\.\う\| (-_-)
(__)_) UUUU /∪∪ (___)(_(__) ◎ ̄ ̄◎─┘ .└──┘.(∩∩)
/ ( ゚?>t?≡ )y─┛~~ 〜(___ノ 〜(___ノ ,γ_
(_ ノγ U ∩_∩) THANK YOU 2ch ┌───────┐ \
α___J _J and (| ● ● | ヽ
/ ̄ ̄ ̄ ̄\ GOOD-BYE 2ch WORLD! /.| .┌▽▽▽▽┐ .|____|__||_| ))
/ ● ●、 ( ┤ .| | .|□━□ )
|Y Y \ またどこかで会おうね \. .└△△△△┘ .| J |)
|.| | .▼ | | \あ\ | ∀ ノ
| \/ _人|∧∧∩゛冫、 .∧_∧ | \り.\ . | - ′
| _/)/)/( ゚Д゚)/ ` . (´∀` )..ヽ(´ー`)ノ \が\ . | )
\ / 〔/\〕 U / ∩∩ ( ) (___) \と.\ .|/
| | | c(*・_・) | |ヽ(´ー`)ノ_| | | | |〜 /\.\う\| (-_-)
(__)_) UUUU /∪∪ (___)(_(__) ◎ ̄ ̄◎─┘ .└──┘.(∩∩)
2014/03/25(火) 23:11:50.92ID:OtB1IGis0
2014/03/25(火) 23:12:10.24ID:JxsmhmPj0
East asia is a +board, which means only Caps can make threads.
You can't split the Caps, and it's not that those who want to change the LR hate it all,
they just want to get rid of a lot of tripfags that have been ignoring the LR and ruining the board.
So the reinforced LR might help change the atmosphere, though I doubt it's going to change alot.
You can't split the Caps, and it's not that those who want to change the LR hate it all,
they just want to get rid of a lot of tripfags that have been ignoring the LR and ruining the board.
So the reinforced LR might help change the atmosphere, though I doubt it's going to change alot.
2014/03/25(火) 23:14:03.04ID:oIAGzcZg0
ニュー速とか設定壊れる前の嫌儲みたいな強制名無しにすれば、雑談する有象無象コテは消えるやろ
BEで自己主張するのまでは知らん
BEで自己主張するのまでは知らん
196動け動けウゴウゴ2ちゃんねる
2014/03/25(火) 23:14:44.46ID:bcpOQvbd0 >>193
感情的な表現はいかがなものでしょう
感情的な表現はいかがなものでしょう
2014/03/25(火) 23:15:08.26ID:/IztIf+/0
>>193
ここは運用板です。
罵り合いがしたいなら、東亜の自治スレでどうぞ
ついでに私はJIMさんの決定に従いますよ、コテ雑談ありとなしが平和に分割するならば、それのどこに問題がありますか?
スレ立てと記者制度を板を分割しても運営できるなら、素晴らしい提案でしょう
違いますか?
ここは運用板です。
罵り合いがしたいなら、東亜の自治スレでどうぞ
ついでに私はJIMさんの決定に従いますよ、コテ雑談ありとなしが平和に分割するならば、それのどこに問題がありますか?
スレ立てと記者制度を板を分割しても運営できるなら、素晴らしい提案でしょう
違いますか?
2014/03/25(火) 23:16:14.13ID:6n4Nj3vi0
板分割なんて一言も書いていない思うが?
199動け動けウゴウゴ2ちゃんねる
2014/03/25(火) 23:17:25.71ID:k0Zrug960 >>198
いや、書いてあるだろ
いや、書いてあるだろ
2014/03/25(火) 23:18:54.45ID:OtB1IGis0
2014/03/25(火) 23:19:05.31ID:D3k5HMoQ0
経緯みたが東亜は差別発言多い上にニュース系なら他にもある
ここでもグチグチ言うならニュース板でなく雑談系に送れ
自治が機能してないんだからそこで死ぬまで雑談してろ
それが嫌ならちゃんと自治しろ。出来なきゃ懲罰板行きでいいだろ
ここでもグチグチ言うならニュース板でなく雑談系に送れ
自治が機能してないんだからそこで死ぬまで雑談してろ
それが嫌ならちゃんと自治しろ。出来なきゃ懲罰板行きでいいだろ
2014/03/25(火) 23:19:53.42ID:6n4Nj3vi0
>>199
どこに?
どこに?
203Grape Ape ★
2014/03/25(火) 23:23:36.72ID:???0 >>183
Yes, we could make it liberal right wing for a while. Maybe using BE and Ronin to make threads
at the start. That way it won't fall so fast. >>194 Don't worry, we will change the rules on your
board, but we will make the new board with the old rules that the "trip" people can use.
What do you think guys?
Yes, we could make it liberal right wing for a while. Maybe using BE and Ronin to make threads
at the start. That way it won't fall so fast. >>194 Don't worry, we will change the rules on your
board, but we will make the new board with the old rules that the "trip" people can use.
What do you think guys?
204動け動けウゴウゴ2ちゃんねる
2014/03/25(火) 23:24:14.06ID:k0Zrug960 >>202
コテ無し板を新しく作るってことは事実上分割でしょ
コテ無し板を新しく作るってことは事実上分割でしょ
2014/03/25(火) 23:26:20.98ID:bFLCC1Y80
愚かなり
2014/03/25(火) 23:26:51.97ID:bWt6S0TA0
超適当翻訳
The circumstances of discussion for rcomic board. ID:C8HdTnAb0 said.
Autonomy thread 2
http://kohada.2ch.net/test/read.cgi/rcomic/1256420147/
had turned into a landfill by "the troll" (ex‐convict. in the below).
Autonomy thread 3
http://nozomi.2ch.net/test/read.cgi/rcomic/1385777191/
was a landfill, but someone guides rcomic people to external Autonomy thread.
external Autonomy thread
http://uni.2ch.net/test/read.cgi/entrance2/1385818455/
They discussed for ID settings.
ex‐convict of "the troll"
http://qb5.2ch.net/test/read.cgi/sec2chd/1264573569/
http://qb5.2ch.net/test/read.cgi/sec2chd/1264691526/
The circumstances of discussion for rcomic board. ID:C8HdTnAb0 said.
Autonomy thread 2
http://kohada.2ch.net/test/read.cgi/rcomic/1256420147/
had turned into a landfill by "the troll" (ex‐convict. in the below).
Autonomy thread 3
http://nozomi.2ch.net/test/read.cgi/rcomic/1385777191/
was a landfill, but someone guides rcomic people to external Autonomy thread.
external Autonomy thread
http://uni.2ch.net/test/read.cgi/entrance2/1385818455/
They discussed for ID settings.
ex‐convict of "the troll"
http://qb5.2ch.net/test/read.cgi/sec2chd/1264573569/
http://qb5.2ch.net/test/read.cgi/sec2chd/1264691526/
2014/03/25(火) 23:27:03.52ID:juD194QR0
2chでこんな目が痛くなるスレが出来るようになるとは
208動け動けウゴウゴ2ちゃんねる
2014/03/25(火) 23:27:21.31ID:k0Zrug960 >>203
What do you think there are already many many boards on 2ch?
It has been said that 2ch maybe has too boards.
What do you think there are already many many boards on 2ch?
It has been said that 2ch maybe has too boards.
2014/03/25(火) 23:27:44.72ID:6n4Nj3vi0
2014/03/25(火) 23:28:29.19ID:3fkqH59i0
2014/03/25(火) 23:29:24.06ID:OtB1IGis0
東亜民は大東亜戦争がしたいだけで新開地を求めてるわけじゃない気がするけどな
212動け動けウゴウゴ2ちゃんねる
2014/03/25(火) 23:30:56.49ID:pAuiP+tf0 東亜の自治スレでやってろよ
2014/03/25(火) 23:31:22.93ID:aDZ7Zncv0
古い板はルール変更して、新しい板はコテハン可、浪人やBEでスレ立て可能にするでいいのかな?
214Grape Ape ★
2014/03/25(火) 23:31:59.41ID:???0 >>208
The small boards are niches, they have their place. However news4plus is rather large.
I personally feel news4plus should be 18+ and on Pink Channel. However I know my personal
feelings are not in the rest of the community's feelings. So when I put the new local rule on
tomorrow. I will make the other board with the original local rules. No reporters required.
Just Be points or Ronin. Tomorrow I will update news4plus local rules, and give an alternative.
The small boards are niches, they have their place. However news4plus is rather large.
I personally feel news4plus should be 18+ and on Pink Channel. However I know my personal
feelings are not in the rest of the community's feelings. So when I put the new local rule on
tomorrow. I will make the other board with the original local rules. No reporters required.
Just Be points or Ronin. Tomorrow I will update news4plus local rules, and give an alternative.
2014/03/25(火) 23:32:02.24ID:6n4Nj3vi0
If you make a new board for news, it will not succeed if you can get users who have a energy to
discuss regional affairs in East asia.
discuss regional affairs in East asia.
216動け動けウゴウゴ2ちゃんねる
2014/03/25(火) 23:34:04.53ID:w1rzRi2w0 >>213
jimはそう言ってる
jimはそう言ってる
2014/03/25(火) 23:34:13.04ID:JxsmhmPj0
>>203
You mean you'll make a new board for the trip people and ones with BE and Ronin that can make threads?
I don't know about that. And it's not my board, I just made an quick observation.
You mean you'll make a new board for the trip people and ones with BE and Ronin that can make threads?
I don't know about that. And it's not my board, I just made an quick observation.
218Grape Ape ★
2014/03/25(火) 23:34:44.24ID:???0 >>215
I am actually happy if that board does not succeed. I will change the rules though just
like you guys voted for. I will make you happy...:)
I am actually happy if that board does not succeed. I will change the rules though just
like you guys voted for. I will make you happy...:)
2014/03/25(火) 23:34:45.43ID:/IztIf+/0
>>213
トリップで建てる古いルールが適用される新しい板を作るだと思います
トリップで建てる古いルールが適用される新しい板を作るだと思います
2014/03/25(火) 23:36:05.18ID:aIgiCraX0
なんか想像の斜め上を行く展開だわ
2014/03/25(火) 23:36:38.49ID:aDZ7Zncv0
>>214
I think that is a good judgment
I think that is a good judgment
2014/03/25(火) 23:37:50.52ID:6n4Nj3vi0
>>218
It depends on you. I want to see a new one which has a fresh air. We can change it if it will be boring.
It depends on you. I want to see a new one which has a fresh air. We can change it if it will be boring.
223動け動けウゴウゴ2ちゃんねる
2014/03/25(火) 23:38:15.65ID:pAuiP+tf0 新しい板には人集まらないだろうなぁ
2014/03/25(火) 23:38:55.54ID:/IztIf+/0
2014/03/25(火) 23:40:31.40ID:z/jNTL+G0
キャップという存在自体がいらないと思うんだよね
誰でもスレを立てられるようなシステムにすれば棲み分けが出来るはず
誰でもスレを立てられるようなシステムにすれば棲み分けが出来るはず
2014/03/25(火) 23:40:39.23ID:DSeNzeNs0
>>203
Thank you for clarification. I will translate your answer for others to share.
訳)(大きくは間違ってないと.....思う)
>>183
はい、私たちはしばらくの間、革新性を持った保守派でいこうと思います。おそらく最初は浪人とBEの両方を持った人が
[新しいnews4plus2板に] スレッドを立てるということにしましょう。そうすれば、すぐに落ちたりするということはないでしょう。
>>194
心配しないでください。あなたの板のローカルルールを変えますが、コテハンを許容する昔のローカルルールの新板を作ります。
[訳注:つまり作るのはコテなし板ではなく、コテOK板を作って旧来の板はコテ禁止となる]
みなさんはどう思いますか?
Thank you for clarification. I will translate your answer for others to share.
訳)(大きくは間違ってないと.....思う)
>>183
はい、私たちはしばらくの間、革新性を持った保守派でいこうと思います。おそらく最初は浪人とBEの両方を持った人が
[新しいnews4plus2板に] スレッドを立てるということにしましょう。そうすれば、すぐに落ちたりするということはないでしょう。
>>194
心配しないでください。あなたの板のローカルルールを変えますが、コテハンを許容する昔のローカルルールの新板を作ります。
[訳注:つまり作るのはコテなし板ではなく、コテOK板を作って旧来の板はコテ禁止となる]
みなさんはどう思いますか?
227動け動けウゴウゴ2ちゃんねる
2014/03/25(火) 23:42:32.04ID:G9XqvBup0 117 名前: 名無しさん@13周年@転載禁止 [sage] 投稿日: 2014/03/24(月) 00:13:14.05 ID:zRWlVTCK0
東スポWebニュース@tospo_news
https://twitter.com/tospo_news/status/447702967454822400
※まとめサイトへの転載禁止
https://twitter.com/tospo_news/status/447703825156427776
東スポWebは記事、写真ともに許可のない転載は禁止です。記事は例え一行でも許可が必要です
やぶへび
2ちゃん転載禁止に呼応して、新聞各社も動く模様。
東スポWebニュース@tospo_news
https://twitter.com/tospo_news/status/447702967454822400
※まとめサイトへの転載禁止
https://twitter.com/tospo_news/status/447703825156427776
東スポWebは記事、写真ともに許可のない転載は禁止です。記事は例え一行でも許可が必要です
やぶへび
2ちゃん転載禁止に呼応して、新聞各社も動く模様。
2014/03/25(火) 23:43:30.00ID:6n4Nj3vi0
>>214
> I personally feel news4plus should be 18+ and on Pink Channel.
I agree to this. There are many interesting news for 18+ in Asian countries, as you have to know.
Manila, BKK, JKT are very fun.
> I personally feel news4plus should be 18+ and on Pink Channel.
I agree to this. There are many interesting news for 18+ in Asian countries, as you have to know.
Manila, BKK, JKT are very fun.
229Grape Ape ★
2014/03/25(火) 23:44:39.70ID:???0 >>221
どもありがとうございます。
どもありがとうございます。
230Grape Ape ★
2014/03/25(火) 23:46:51.45ID:???0 >>224
はいわかります、あしたおわります。
はいわかります、あしたおわります。
2014/03/25(火) 23:47:28.23ID:aIgiCraX0
>>223
結局どちらか一方に人が集まりましたって結果になったならそれはそれで住人を納得させる目的を達したとも
結局どちらか一方に人が集まりましたって結果になったならそれはそれで住人を納得させる目的を達したとも
2014/03/25(火) 23:47:45.31ID:/IztIf+/0
2014/03/25(火) 23:47:56.32ID:OtB1IGis0
2014/03/25(火) 23:49:17.51ID:IazVwTjh0
>>225
それこそ懐かしのニュー速でやれじゃね
それこそ懐かしのニュー速でやれじゃね
235動け動けウゴウゴ2ちゃんねる
2014/03/25(火) 23:49:19.94ID:2Q5THzdr0 まあ無難なやり方かもしれないけど一度作るとなかなか消せないからなあ
ニュース系だけでかなりあるぞ
ニュース系だけでかなりあるぞ
2014/03/25(火) 23:50:04.30ID:PJ7pevrZ0
>>233
そこで、931の復活ですよ
そこで、931の復活ですよ
2014/03/25(火) 23:51:05.92ID:OtB1IGis0
>>236
あれは負荷が高いうえに削除スキルとの兼ね合いがあってダメだ
あれは負荷が高いうえに削除スキルとの兼ね合いがあってダメだ
238動け動けウゴウゴ2ちゃんねる
2014/03/25(火) 23:56:22.47ID:okRQDNBg0 Now some users ( perhaps users of Kenmo board ) join the discussion of self-government of other board,
and I think that , perhaps, they are leading argument by the way of Sockpuppet, for voting.
And the result of that vote is accepted by administrator of " 2ch ". by this,
default name and local rule of the boards were changed in the most part of "2ch".
Some of the proofs of that are the result of "Hissi checker" scan of voting-thread, or log of the thread of vote-maneuvering on Kenmo board.
See also,
Hissi-checker result:http://hissi.org/read.php/vote/20140305/ http://hissi.org/read.php/vote/20140305/T0pYMW9Fam4.html
http://hissi.org/read.php/vote/20140305/YS9lRWR4QzQ.html http://hissi.org/read.php/vote/20140305/WjVISXR3YUY.html
http://hissi.org/read.php/vote/20140305/WklGK2RIcjM.html
The thread on Kenmo board:【議論】転載禁止総合【投票】 http://maguro.2ch.net/test/read.cgi/poverty/1393857789/(1〜9threads)
However, they insist , like this " this is the fair way that Jim-san accepts! ".
And they do not listen to the objection in the self-government argument of other boards.
Seriously, sometimes, intimidation is carried out for "the person who advocated objection" by them.
For example, the survey of " the personal information of the person who advocated objection "
and the disclosing that are carried out by the users of " Kenmo board".( I think that this is criminal act in Japanese society. )
I think that " self-government argument thread" on each board is to decide local rule of the board.
Therefore, about the case of this time like the maneuvering ( sockpuppeting ) , or the change of local rule by that non-normalcy way,
you ( administrator ) think that is an act of "laying waste", don't you?
In addition, few particular users, except them, force one-sided rule on the whole users, can you say " this is the democracy ( match the democracy Jim-san insist ) "?
Many unique users of "2ch"( ordinary 2channelers ) ignore Sockpuppets behavior.
One of the reasons " ordinary 2channelers don't want to get involved in troublesome ".
Another reason, " Many 2channeler believe the freedom of internet,
and they think that even though some people spoofing users of other board and write to 2ch, that is freedom."
However, about the vote that was performed by users of KENMO board and some users who were controlled by KENMO,
they report the result of that with saying "This is the completely legitimate vote, according to the democratic principle of the board."
And it is the present conditions that the result is uncritically accepted by manager( Owner ) of "2ch".
I think that you can confirm this, even the board with a little number of unique users.
I hope to manager(Owner), please confirm this " lay waste " act, and please do a lot of effort to keep good usability of "2ch", for us, or for yourself.
and I think that , perhaps, they are leading argument by the way of Sockpuppet, for voting.
And the result of that vote is accepted by administrator of " 2ch ". by this,
default name and local rule of the boards were changed in the most part of "2ch".
Some of the proofs of that are the result of "Hissi checker" scan of voting-thread, or log of the thread of vote-maneuvering on Kenmo board.
See also,
Hissi-checker result:http://hissi.org/read.php/vote/20140305/ http://hissi.org/read.php/vote/20140305/T0pYMW9Fam4.html
http://hissi.org/read.php/vote/20140305/YS9lRWR4QzQ.html http://hissi.org/read.php/vote/20140305/WjVISXR3YUY.html
http://hissi.org/read.php/vote/20140305/WklGK2RIcjM.html
The thread on Kenmo board:【議論】転載禁止総合【投票】 http://maguro.2ch.net/test/read.cgi/poverty/1393857789/(1〜9threads)
However, they insist , like this " this is the fair way that Jim-san accepts! ".
And they do not listen to the objection in the self-government argument of other boards.
Seriously, sometimes, intimidation is carried out for "the person who advocated objection" by them.
For example, the survey of " the personal information of the person who advocated objection "
and the disclosing that are carried out by the users of " Kenmo board".( I think that this is criminal act in Japanese society. )
I think that " self-government argument thread" on each board is to decide local rule of the board.
Therefore, about the case of this time like the maneuvering ( sockpuppeting ) , or the change of local rule by that non-normalcy way,
you ( administrator ) think that is an act of "laying waste", don't you?
In addition, few particular users, except them, force one-sided rule on the whole users, can you say " this is the democracy ( match the democracy Jim-san insist ) "?
Many unique users of "2ch"( ordinary 2channelers ) ignore Sockpuppets behavior.
One of the reasons " ordinary 2channelers don't want to get involved in troublesome ".
Another reason, " Many 2channeler believe the freedom of internet,
and they think that even though some people spoofing users of other board and write to 2ch, that is freedom."
However, about the vote that was performed by users of KENMO board and some users who were controlled by KENMO,
they report the result of that with saying "This is the completely legitimate vote, according to the democratic principle of the board."
And it is the present conditions that the result is uncritically accepted by manager( Owner ) of "2ch".
I think that you can confirm this, even the board with a little number of unique users.
I hope to manager(Owner), please confirm this " lay waste " act, and please do a lot of effort to keep good usability of "2ch", for us, or for yourself.
2014/03/25(火) 23:56:31.33ID:IazVwTjh0
>>236
考慮するにしても、お止め隊や削除人なんかの運営体制が整ってからじゃないの
考慮するにしても、お止め隊や削除人なんかの運営体制が整ってからじゃないの
240動け動けウゴウゴ2ちゃんねる
2014/03/25(火) 23:57:52.92ID:2Q5THzdr0241>>238の日本語文
2014/03/26(水) 00:01:28.39ID:7HJNQtbD0 現在嫌儲板利用者を中心とした、全板に対する自治議論スレッドの対象板住人へのなりすまし議論や
必死チェッカーと嫌儲板の投票工作相談スレの内容からも明らかである投票工作が行われ、
その結果が運営に受理され、
2ちゃん全体に一律の名前変更とルール変更投票が行われています。
(前述>>238のリンク参照)
彼らは「ジムが嫌儲の工作を正当であると断言した」と言いふらしながら、
全ての板の自治議論上の反対に耳を貸さず、
投票ありきの工作とそれに反対を唱えた者に対するストーカー予告や脅迫、
個人情報の暴露と回覧なども行っています。
ローカルルールを決めるための自治に、一部の板が組織的な工作を仕掛け
そして一律のルールを押しつけようとするのを、
現運営は荒らし行為と見なさないのでしょうか。
一般的なネット掲示板の利用者としての感覚では荒らしだと思います。
そしてその一部の人間達が全体に一律のルールを一方的に押しつけるのは、
ジムの考える民主主義に合致しているのでしょうか。
多くの2ちゃん利用者は、嫌儲が勝手にやっている投票ごっこという事で
口を挟まずに居ます。利用者として書き込む行為そのものは自由だと認めているからです。
しかし嫌儲は彼らの仲間内で行った投票を、他の板の自治上の投票だと偽って
運営に結果報告しそれが受理されているのが現状です。
運営にはこの大規模な荒らしに対する確認と、正常な掲示板を保つ対応を要請します。
回答宜しくお願いします。
必死チェッカーと嫌儲板の投票工作相談スレの内容からも明らかである投票工作が行われ、
その結果が運営に受理され、
2ちゃん全体に一律の名前変更とルール変更投票が行われています。
(前述>>238のリンク参照)
彼らは「ジムが嫌儲の工作を正当であると断言した」と言いふらしながら、
全ての板の自治議論上の反対に耳を貸さず、
投票ありきの工作とそれに反対を唱えた者に対するストーカー予告や脅迫、
個人情報の暴露と回覧なども行っています。
ローカルルールを決めるための自治に、一部の板が組織的な工作を仕掛け
そして一律のルールを押しつけようとするのを、
現運営は荒らし行為と見なさないのでしょうか。
一般的なネット掲示板の利用者としての感覚では荒らしだと思います。
そしてその一部の人間達が全体に一律のルールを一方的に押しつけるのは、
ジムの考える民主主義に合致しているのでしょうか。
多くの2ちゃん利用者は、嫌儲が勝手にやっている投票ごっこという事で
口を挟まずに居ます。利用者として書き込む行為そのものは自由だと認めているからです。
しかし嫌儲は彼らの仲間内で行った投票を、他の板の自治上の投票だと偽って
運営に結果報告しそれが受理されているのが現状です。
運営にはこの大規模な荒らしに対する確認と、正常な掲示板を保つ対応を要請します。
回答宜しくお願いします。
2014/03/26(水) 00:02:17.20ID:1SPa91OX0
Jim-san,
Afikasu draws too many AAs or pictures of "penis".
Thats awful and makes me sick. A lady would have disease.
Please clean up the monsters, Afikasu and their works.
Best regards
Afikasu draws too many AAs or pictures of "penis".
Thats awful and makes me sick. A lady would have disease.
Please clean up the monsters, Afikasu and their works.
Best regards
243Grape Ape ★
2014/03/26(水) 00:03:34.50ID:???0 >>242
They are very interested in that subject.
They are very interested in that subject.
244Grape Ape ★
2014/03/26(水) 00:10:43.06ID:???0 >>238
You are right, and I have been looking at those threads when I make changes. If the change
doesn't make sense to me, then I have not been doing it. I think the news4plus was a real
election though. Don't you? I understand both sides of that issue, and can see the pros and the cons.
I suspect that the change might be beneficial for that board, but the 41% that didn't agree will
need a place to go, and I don't want them to move into other boards if I can help it. I would
like them to have their own special board with their old rules.
You are right, and I have been looking at those threads when I make changes. If the change
doesn't make sense to me, then I have not been doing it. I think the news4plus was a real
election though. Don't you? I understand both sides of that issue, and can see the pros and the cons.
I suspect that the change might be beneficial for that board, but the 41% that didn't agree will
need a place to go, and I don't want them to move into other boards if I can help it. I would
like them to have their own special board with their old rules.
2014/03/26(水) 00:20:36.26ID:TcvK1Qo/0
>>244
I think not resolved by the division of the board, because guys just want to personal attacks.
I think not resolved by the division of the board, because guys just want to personal attacks.
246あひるちゃん ◆2gpD9lKn5TVE
2014/03/26(水) 00:22:15.83ID:lRCHvdMD0 JIMは設定変更後に問題があるなら再度調整してくれるスタンスだから
狂乱が去り、尚も問題が有るならば再度ゆっくり板で話し合って申請すりゃいい。
一発で理想の状態にならないなら何度か試せばいいだけ
狂乱が去り、尚も問題が有るならば再度ゆっくり板で話し合って申請すりゃいい。
一発で理想の状態にならないなら何度か試せばいいだけ
247 [´・ω・`] KD182249242140.au-net.ne.jp
2014/03/26(水) 00:24:28.53ID:vw4SGq/60 かきこめん
2014/03/26(水) 00:26:37.57ID:TcvK1Qo/0
Jim-san
These raptores are the ringleaders of madness.
These raptores are the ringleaders of madness.
250Grape Ape ★
2014/03/26(水) 00:29:23.05ID:???0 >>246
Experimenting is good. Yes they want to argue. I see that...:) I will make their change tomorrow
if it doesn't work out, it can be changed again.
Experimenting is good. Yes they want to argue. I see that...:) I will make their change tomorrow
if it doesn't work out, it can be changed again.
251Grape Ape ★
2014/03/26(水) 00:32:01.98ID:???0 >>249
They are definite predators. Hunters with blood lust. I have hidden my copy of The Diary
of Anne Frank.
They are definite predators. Hunters with blood lust. I have hidden my copy of The Diary
of Anne Frank.
252Army Board Liaison officer ◆kHiXISPRyw
2014/03/26(水) 00:37:53.63ID:1X72Nu9F0 >>120
Good evening Sir! General Jim-san!
Arrving at operate, on behalf of 予備政治士官 ◆MVChfC0L7Y Sir!
The base camp, is located at
自治スレッド53(ID強制表示本採用投票4/19予定)http://toro.2ch.net/test/read.cgi/army/1395286401/
Good evening Sir! General Jim-san!
Arrving at operate, on behalf of 予備政治士官 ◆MVChfC0L7Y Sir!
The base camp, is located at
自治スレッド53(ID強制表示本採用投票4/19予定)http://toro.2ch.net/test/read.cgi/army/1395286401/
253動け動けウゴウゴ2ちゃんねる
2014/03/26(水) 00:38:20.29ID:ZXyabGJZ0 >>231
ローカルルール守られずうるさい連中が押し寄せる未来が待ってるw
ローカルルール守られずうるさい連中が押し寄せる未来が待ってるw
254動け動けウゴウゴ2ちゃんねる
2014/03/26(水) 00:41:24.77ID:yiRJ6Cdp0 Jjimsan.
Do not make a new board?
KENMO board was created as a board to prohibit the reproduction of only.
The role of KENMO board be used to isolate the anti-capitalist.
It became the opposite of current.
All boards became KENMO.
I want to create a new board of anti-KENMOism. Reproduction is permitted only this board.
Are many residents that beginning with TOUA people, are dissatisfied.
Can be resolved in this way.
Do not make a new board?
KENMO board was created as a board to prohibit the reproduction of only.
The role of KENMO board be used to isolate the anti-capitalist.
It became the opposite of current.
All boards became KENMO.
I want to create a new board of anti-KENMOism. Reproduction is permitted only this board.
Are many residents that beginning with TOUA people, are dissatisfied.
Can be resolved in this way.
255C ◆Odemonkey. @Code Monkey ★
2014/03/26(水) 00:43:43.52ID:???0 >>254
How about I make a new rule for http://maguro.2ch.net/anarchy?
"Reproduction is permitted in this board"
How about I make a new rule for http://maguro.2ch.net/anarchy?
"Reproduction is permitted in this board"
256あひるちゃん ◆2gpD9lKn5TVE
2014/03/26(水) 00:43:56.93ID:lRCHvdMD0 >>250
Yep!
Old unei volunteers tend to behave as if they were privilege class and did not like application for readjusting setting.txt at all.
That is why ppl have concern about the setback.
I like your makeove of setting.txt.
Yep!
Old unei volunteers tend to behave as if they were privilege class and did not like application for readjusting setting.txt at all.
That is why ppl have concern about the setback.
I like your makeove of setting.txt.
2014/03/26(水) 00:44:14.95ID:TcvK1Qo/0
>>251
The page break or the Lost, WAROTA current events in Japan unexpectedly Jim-san.
The page break or the Lost, WAROTA current events in Japan unexpectedly Jim-san.
258Grape Ape ★
2014/03/26(水) 00:48:30.20ID:???0 >>255
Good idea
Good idea
259動け動けウゴウゴ2ちゃんねる
2014/03/26(水) 00:49:50.11ID:uHCx7qRE0260Grape Ape ★
2014/03/26(水) 00:49:57.61ID:???0 >>256
Adjustment is good. Whenever something is touched, then there will be change. Either good
or bad, but a change will occur.
Adjustment is good. Whenever something is touched, then there will be change. Either good
or bad, but a change will occur.
261Grape Ape ★
2014/03/26(水) 00:54:30.74ID:???0 >>252
Well done. Please keep me updated with status reports.
Well done. Please keep me updated with status reports.
2014/03/26(水) 00:55:19.55ID:TcvK1Qo/0
This can be printed if there is original, the board also will be the same perhaps.
However, if SURETATE author is unknown, You think what guys and show interest?
However, if SURETATE author is unknown, You think what guys and show interest?
263Grape Ape ★
2014/03/26(水) 00:56:21.93ID:???0264動け動けウゴウゴ2ちゃんねる
2014/03/26(水) 00:56:54.18ID:j2A2g9k10 ついに「好儲板」が出来るのか
265Grape Ape ★
2014/03/26(水) 00:58:28.00ID:???0 >>257
I do read the news...;)
I do read the news...;)
266動け動けウゴウゴ2ちゃんねる
2014/03/26(水) 00:59:12.19ID:ZXyabGJZ0 もう1時だぞお前ら
267C ◆Odemonkey. @Code Monkey ★
2014/03/26(水) 01:00:25.35ID:???02014/03/26(水) 01:03:40.25ID:jURtDfqE0
Please re-configure ipv6.2ch.net DNS AAAA record.
Without AAAA record(v6 address), we cannot write to IPv6 board(read-only).
Without AAAA record(v6 address), we cannot write to IPv6 board(read-only).
2014/03/26(水) 01:07:35.91ID:TcvK1Qo/0
Jim-san
This is the manuscript of my news tomorrow.
I predict, guys daily routine of KOTEHAN stalking.
This separation strategy will probably fail.
This is the manuscript of my news tomorrow.
I predict, guys daily routine of KOTEHAN stalking.
This separation strategy will probably fail.
270425の中身 ◆kHiXISPRyw
2014/03/26(水) 01:08:35.99ID:1X72Nu9F0 Reporting status
Operation name : bbs-force-id-Evaluation
Problem first confirmed : Feb 22nd 2014
Operation planned : Mar 16th 2014
Operation launched : Mar 19th 2014
Expected length of operation : 1 Month
Operation evaluation planned at : Apr 19th 2014
SIGINT report : http://toro.2ch.net/test/read.cgi/army/1395286401//82-86
STATUS:
Base camp needs support from C2 to collect MIA troops out in the filed for a planned pickup date at Apr 19th 2014.
Out conclusion is to place at SETTINGS.TXT
BBS_NONAME_NAME=名無し三等兵@ID設定投票日4/19-25自治スレ
to indicate pickup point to all field troops.
SIGINT will be gathered from returned field troops during Apr 19th 2014 up to Apr 25th 2014
Further action will be planned according to gathered info.
NOTE:
Base camp SIGINT under charge of 予備政治士官 ◆MVChfC0L7Y
Army Board Liaison officer ◆kHiXISPRyw (425の中身)
Operation name : bbs-force-id-Evaluation
Problem first confirmed : Feb 22nd 2014
Operation planned : Mar 16th 2014
Operation launched : Mar 19th 2014
Expected length of operation : 1 Month
Operation evaluation planned at : Apr 19th 2014
SIGINT report : http://toro.2ch.net/test/read.cgi/army/1395286401//82-86
STATUS:
Base camp needs support from C2 to collect MIA troops out in the filed for a planned pickup date at Apr 19th 2014.
Out conclusion is to place at SETTINGS.TXT
BBS_NONAME_NAME=名無し三等兵@ID設定投票日4/19-25自治スレ
to indicate pickup point to all field troops.
SIGINT will be gathered from returned field troops during Apr 19th 2014 up to Apr 25th 2014
Further action will be planned according to gathered info.
NOTE:
Base camp SIGINT under charge of 予備政治士官 ◆MVChfC0L7Y
Army Board Liaison officer ◆kHiXISPRyw (425の中身)
271動け動けウゴウゴ2ちゃんねる
2014/03/26(水) 01:10:41.88ID:uHCx7qRE0 >>263
Thank you for your reply.
Although everything I know is that, too.
Whenever I see him(them), I will tell him make a live autonomy thread.
Regards.
Thank you for your reply.
Although everything I know is that, too.
Whenever I see him(them), I will tell him make a live autonomy thread.
Regards.
273Grape Ape ★
2014/03/26(水) 01:27:11.26ID:???0 Good night guys. I will look at all of this again in the morning. Reevaluate with a fresh mind.
ぐない
ぐない
2014/03/26(水) 01:28:46.07ID:hFZJgChq0
ID表示って0時で切り替わらなくなったの?
2014/03/26(水) 01:29:05.11ID:uHCx7qRE0
>>273
Good night!
Good night!
2014/03/26(水) 01:29:09.07ID:7Y0cB1xq0
>>273
JIMさん、ぐない^^
JIMさん、ぐない^^
2014/03/26(水) 01:34:15.82ID:hFZJgChq0
278動け動けウゴウゴ2ちゃんねる
2014/03/26(水) 01:43:09.26ID:ZXyabGJZ0 ここってどっちかといえば雑談スレなのに(´・ω・`)
279あひるちゃん ◆2gpD9lKn5TVE
2014/03/26(水) 01:48:54.06ID:lRCHvdMD0 >>260
Yep!
Yep!
280予備政治士官 ◆MVChfC0L7Y
2014/03/26(水) 01:50:06.70ID:gD56EQPJ0 >>273
General Jim.
Good night.
Reports and questions from representatives of the Army Board
425の中身◆ kHiXISPRyw contents(Army Board Liaison officer ◆ kHiXISPRyw)
Let's talk with Jim-san in operate. ★16
http://qb5.2ch.net/test/read.cgi/operate/1395476217/857
http://qb5.2ch.net/test/read.cgi/operate/1395476217/890
Let's talk with Jim-san in operate. ★17
http://qb5.2ch.net/test/read.cgi/operate/1395721864/252
http://qb5.2ch.net/test/read.cgi/operate/1395721864/270
We are waiting for answers.
The Army Board, is with Generl Jim.
We will defend absolutely here.
We protect regional.
General Jim.
Good night.
Reports and questions from representatives of the Army Board
425の中身◆ kHiXISPRyw contents(Army Board Liaison officer ◆ kHiXISPRyw)
Let's talk with Jim-san in operate. ★16
http://qb5.2ch.net/test/read.cgi/operate/1395476217/857
http://qb5.2ch.net/test/read.cgi/operate/1395476217/890
Let's talk with Jim-san in operate. ★17
http://qb5.2ch.net/test/read.cgi/operate/1395721864/252
http://qb5.2ch.net/test/read.cgi/operate/1395721864/270
We are waiting for answers.
The Army Board, is with Generl Jim.
We will defend absolutely here.
We protect regional.
281あひるちゃん ◆2gpD9lKn5TVE
2014/03/26(水) 01:51:03.84ID:lRCHvdMD0 出し抜きに来たのか?ちゃんと話し合って来たのか?
2014/03/26(水) 01:54:56.74ID:TcvK1Qo/0
2014/03/26(水) 02:33:41.47ID:m0GOFWmx0
あひるはいつも板の事情とか考えずにかき回しにくるな…
284あひるちゃん ◆2gpD9lKn5TVE
2014/03/26(水) 02:43:20.49ID:lRCHvdMD02014/03/26(水) 03:19:01.38ID:CoNxU+ZQ0
それは軍事板の別の人間がやる仕事だから放っておけばいいのさ
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