0273動け動けウゴウゴ２ちゃんねる2014/03/10(月) 19:03:50.76ID:sHac7nmR0 Hi Jim,
May I ask your thought about the MATOME site which has affiliate ads? Do you want to prohibit such site even if they don't charge any fee for users? Do you think such site are commercial site or not.
I guess someone has already asked such but still many users are discussing about this topic so I would like to clarify. 0274動け動けウゴウゴ２ちゃんねる2014/03/10(月) 19:05:44.90ID:oV9IIj+P0 Hello, Mr.Jim. I wrote the same matter on the last thread too, but I am writing it again so that you will read it and answer it. I have not understood yet why you a foreigner who do not understand Japanese is controlling this website "2ch", where only Japanese are chatting only in Japanese. As you know, we already have many problems of controlling 2ch: whether reproduction of our texts on 2ch should be permitted or not. As there are many ideas on this thread now, it is required for us to discuss it more and more. Then it is necessary that the administrator should understand our language. Otherwise only users who have ability to tell their ideas in English can do it, others who do not have the ability cannot, as now. Have you understood what they have written on this thread in Japanese? Although I am writing this message in English, it is comical that a user of a BBS should write his or her message not in the language which is the mother tongue of all of the users of the BBS but in another which only the foreigner administrator is using. It is a tremendous problem that ideas of some users should be ignored only on account of your not understanding Japanese. Even if you are using a machine to translate Japanese sentences in English ones, it can hardly, if ever, tell you the important respects. All rights reserved does not mean 転載禁止. Actually your misunderstanding has caused a problem once. Controlling 2ch must not matter for you, but it really does for us, since we have depended on 2ch or loved 2ch for a long time. Although you now have the right of controlling 2ch, you should have ordered some Japanese to do it instead of you so that we would have no more problems as ones which we now have. If you now have such a plan. you should tell it to us immediately. And if NOT you should tell us why you do not have such a plan in spite of reasons above. Thank you very much for reading this message. 0275(ヽ´皿`) ＜アフィカスぅぅぅ！！2014/03/10(月) 19:07:06.66ID:hssoO2eJ0 日本語分かる人が居なきゃもう駄目じゃない？ 0276動け動けウゴウゴ２ちゃんねる2014/03/10(月) 19:09:28.40ID:zbmHHx+40 274 > All rights reserved does not mean 転載禁止.
（´∀｀）＜ Let's enjoy English! 0279Grape Ape ★2014/03/10(月) 19:12:34.84ID:???0>>274 I have read your message 2 times now. What is your point? I have been taking care of 2ch servers for 15 years. I am the original investor in 2ch. It is only natural that I will defend 2ch when it is in trouble. I have supported the freedom of speech for Japanese people for longer than many of the users of 2ch have been alive. I have just been quiet. Now is a time of emergency, and I have no choice to raise my head from behind the scenes. Please enjoy your 2ch life. 0280動け動けウゴウゴ２ちゃんねる2014/03/10(月) 19:15:15.22ID:QKnIScMJ0 アフィカスだとかレッテル貼ったところで何言ってんのこいつという感じ 0281動け動けウゴウゴ２ちゃんねる2014/03/10(月) 19:15:17.71ID:eTDrcV2t0>>279 I agree with you. Thank you so much.
>>274 Give me a break!!!!!!!!!! 0282動け動けウゴウゴ２ちゃんねる2014/03/10(月) 19:15:35.53ID:VdqyT52G0 ジムはアフィがすごい金を稼いでいることをフェアでないといい、 フェアであればアフィの転載を禁止しない、協力すると言っている 要は課金するためのシステムが欲しいということだけじゃないか 0283動け動けウゴウゴ２ちゃんねる2014/03/10(月) 19:15:38.01ID:zbmHHx+40>>278 They remain as far apart as ever.
Where do I send a gummi? 0285Grape Ape ★2014/03/10(月) 19:18:08.15ID:???0>>284 Our address is listed here. http://www.2ch.net/ I like grape the best...:P 0286(ヽ´皿`) ＜アフィカスぅぅぅ！！2014/03/10(月) 19:18:39.69ID:hssoO2eJ0>>282 凄いお金って具体的に幾らさ？
嫌儲と言う思想に対応するコストの方が大きい。 ２ちゃんは非常事態で存続を第一に考えなくてはいけない時期だ。 0287動け動けウゴウゴ２ちゃんねる2014/03/10(月) 19:19:59.64ID:oV9IIj+P0>>279 Please enable all of the users of 2ch to tell their ideas to the administrator in their mother tongue so as to enjoy their 2ch life. It does not matter whether you have been involved in the management of 2ch. My point is only that this situation where we must tell our ideas here not in Japanese but in English is very comical. Now users who do not understand English have no way to tell you their ideas. When you cannot understand Japanese without any translation machine, you must resign the administrator of 2ch. 0288(ヽ´ん`) ＜アフィカスぅぅぅ！！2014/03/10(月) 19:20:18.45ID:hssoO2eJ0 嫌儲の狙いは２ちゃんねるを潰す事だ。
手間とまんどくさいことをしてる前に。 0291動け動けウゴウゴ２ちゃんねる2014/03/10(月) 19:22:05.59ID:w7KGPtdY0>>283-284 Yes that's right :) 0292動け動けウゴウゴ２ちゃんねる2014/03/10(月) 19:23:01.61ID:OqyeynzZ0 Good evening, Jim-san. Did you got the response of the lawyer? Please correct the ARR setting of the board. 0293動け動けウゴウゴ２ちゃんねる2014/03/10(月) 19:23:35.73ID:zbmHHx+40>>287 Don't care. Mr. Jim does not understand Japanese. Hiroyuki does not hear Japanese. This is a style of 2ch. 0294Grape Ape ★2014/03/10(月) 19:23:45.15ID:???0 ＞＞２８７ I have unleashed the Krakken. Sorry guys. 0295動け動けウゴウゴ２ちゃんねる2014/03/10(月) 19:24:56.39ID:eTDrcV2t0>>287 I don't think so, Many user can communicate with Jim-san in Japanpases. Sometime, they can get a support of other users. To help each other is the culture of 2 channel.
Stop the false accusation! 0296(ヽ´皿`) ＜アフィカスぅぅぅ！！2014/03/10(月) 19:26:24.61ID:hssoO2eJ0 英語でＪＩＭ氏をまくし立てているのは分かるが どうしようも無い。
今までのスタイルの２ちゃんねる運営は終了した。
運営に出入りしていた自治ゴロの皆さんは運営弄りの趣味を失ったｗ 0297Grape Ape ★2014/03/10(月) 19:27:19.33ID:???0>>290 がんばります。あなたを魯人ですか？ どもありがとうございます。 0298[´・ω・｀]KD182249240077.au-net.ne.jp2014/03/10(月) 19:27:48.91ID:PtR8wtu60 Jim-san
We bought and used annual passport of certain amusement park "A". but "A" 's manager was changed. and new manager says;
"this passport can not be used." "because I have not received fee of passport." "after this, you should buy new passport. and but SLIGHTLY more expensive." "I will never hear your complaint." "ask previous manager. lol"
isn't he irresponsible??? 0299あひるちゃん ◆2gpD9lKn5TVE 2014/03/10(月) 19:28:03.75ID:/JYeeL5e0>>282 JIMは２ちゃんの管理権限をどうやって得たのかは知らんが、 当初からお金に敏感な反応をしてレスしてたからアフィブログと共存を選ぶのかと思いきや、 嫌儲と同じように全面対決の選択をした。
リスペクト0の既存のアフィブログと共存ってのはメリットを感じない 変な連中増やして呼びこむだけだし。 0300動け動けウゴウゴ２ちゃんねる2014/03/10(月) 19:29:47.81ID:eTDrcV2t0 The queen ignored what uses said in Japanese. 0301動け動けウゴウゴ２ちゃんねる2014/03/10(月) 19:30:24.29ID:hssoO2eJ0>>299 二言目には「変な連中」とテンプレ化しているお約束の言葉だが。
２ちゃんの最大のメリットは人がいる事だ。
人が居なくても良いと言うのなら何故同じシステムを持つしたらばに移動しない？ 0302動け動けウゴウゴ２ちゃんねる2014/03/10(月) 19:32:21.88ID:BSlbqXza0 loopys again... >>2980303動け動けウゴウゴ２ちゃんねる2014/03/10(月) 19:32:30.56ID:oV9IIj+P0>>295 It means that without any help of other users they cannot tell him their ideas. It sounds to be much better that a Japanese should be the administrator of 2ch. Actually we have seen many problems caused by his not understanding Japanese. Then it is natural that a new Japanese administrator should be required. Having written so short a accusation, you think that you have defeated me. It is nothing but non-sence. 0304Grape Ape ★2014/03/10(月) 19:32:33.91ID:???0>>298 You need to bring that up with Brazil. I have nothing to do with maritapo points etc. I had no intention of turning that system off by the way. I have no replacement in place for it. It is not a nice situation for the p2 users. However I still have nothing to do with that system. If there had not been an attack from those servers, then it would still be online. This was someone else's decision, not mine, and they should answer your question. I am sorry you are not enjoying an amusement park now. Please go to Disneyland. I recommend Small World. It is a small world after all. 0305動け動けウゴウゴ２ちゃんねる2014/03/10(月) 19:33:39.93ID:uFhlXMjE0>>279 Jim, I totally agree with you. I know how well you've been doing since early times. Never mind about useless noises please. 0306(ヽ´皿`) ＜アフィカスぅぅぅ！！2014/03/10(月) 19:34:10.79ID:hssoO2eJ0 Jim,
我々の意志を伝える手段として「投票」を利用したいのだけど。 どうかな？
ルールは自分達で決めるので。 採用か不採用だけ判断して欲しいのだけど。 0307動け動けウゴウゴ２ちゃんねる2014/03/10(月) 19:35:47.40ID:BSlbqXza0>>303 別に困らないし。 Jimも全く日本語を理解しない訳でも無いから。 何か問題があるの？ 数にモノを言わす がやりにくいから？ 0308動け動けウゴウゴ２ちゃんねる2014/03/10(月) 19:37:54.64ID:nCoMqJYb0>>279 Thank you, Jim Server was moving at the time of earthquake 3.11 0309鉄クズ♂2014/03/10(月) 19:38:02.00ID:ddiYuD92i>>279 Great great.
You've been doing much better than previous admins. At least you face the hidden cancers that have eaten 2ch for years. I hope you find a good way to solve current issues.
Take your time, 0310動け動けウゴウゴ２ちゃんねる2014/03/10(月) 19:38:31.79ID:oV9IIj+P0>>307 お前は困ってなくても現に困ってるやつは大勢いる 全く理解はしなくとも難しい事柄は理解できないんだろ そういうことは英語で書かなきゃならないんだろ だったら問題あるじゃないか 数にモノを言わすということを毛嫌いしているようだが 2chユーザーである限り声を上げる権利は平等にあるはずだよな 自分らが特別でより大きな権利があるとか思ってるんかね、お前は 0311動け動けウゴウゴ２ちゃんねる2014/03/10(月) 19:39:00.49ID:hssoO2eJ0>>307 実際嫌儲の無差別テロを引き起こしまって 多くの住人が迷惑を被った。
>>297 Book of 2ch Posts Video of 2ch Posts Royalties to where ...
意味が通じるかなぁ 0313動け動けウゴウゴ２ちゃんねる2014/03/10(月) 19:40:05.62ID:eTDrcV2t0>>303 No, if some users try to explain what they want in Japanese, sometime, they can't. At that time, other users will help. This is the 2channel.
The problem might be caused by users who have some intention.
As you must know, the previous administrators have made many problem, they were native Japanese speaker. 0314動け動けウゴウゴ２ちゃんねる2014/03/10(月) 19:41:27.57ID:BSlbqXza0>>310 つ 「鏡」
>> 433 I have had to delay that. I want to make sure the wording is correct. I have asked about it on this thread, or maybe the previous one, but I have not received a clear response. So I have sent my Lawyer Agent in Japan the question. Probably he will reply on Monday. 0319Grape Ape ★2014/03/10(月) 19:43:55.08ID:???0>>293,315 ROFLOL 0320動け動けウゴウゴ２ちゃんねる2014/03/10(月) 19:44:44.03ID:hssoO2eJ0>>314 ２ちゃんが確実に終わりに近づいているのは同意。
外国人が管理人は有りか無しで言えば、無し。 すでに終わっていると言っても過言ではない。
大体ＪＩＭは王様なのに兵隊も城も無しで丸裸ってのはどう言う事だよ。 ２ちゃんねるの安全係数は既に無い。 ＪＩＭの心が折れたら２ちゃんねるは終わりだ。 0321動け動けウゴウゴ２ちゃんねる2014/03/10(月) 19:45:31.09ID:hssoO2eJ0>>316 頑張らなきゃいけないようなら、それはもう既に終わっているんだよ。 0322動け動けウゴウゴ２ちゃんねる2014/03/10(月) 19:46:27.88ID:hssoO2eJ0>>316 王様は頑張らせるもので頑張るものではない。 0323動け動けウゴウゴ２ちゃんねる2014/03/10(月) 19:46:50.10ID:BSlbqXza0>>320 At the last, what's happen? We just return to jungle. HAHAHA 0324[´・ω・｀]KD182249240077.au-net.ne.jp2014/03/10(月) 19:48:00.89ID:PtR8wtu60 Jim-san
In the first place, Brazil attacked 2ch REALLY??? Brazil said "NO", with some evidences.
you should show definitive evidence of "Brazil is LIAR!!!" we can't trust your saying. 0325動け動けウゴウゴ２ちゃんねる2014/03/10(月) 19:48:33.74ID:hssoO2eJ0>>323 サーバーのコンセント抜いて不貞寝すりゃ済むだろ。 0326あひるちゃん ◆2gpD9lKn5TVE 2014/03/10(月) 19:48:42.41ID:/JYeeL5e0>>301 元々知的好奇心旺盛な人達が来てくれることによって雰囲気が醸成されてたけど アホな不平や煽るブログのお陰でガチで余裕のない連中がガチギレしてる流れが増えた メリットない。
人がいなくても良いってわけではない。どういう人達を集めて２ちゃんの価値を高めてくかってとこな。 0327動け動けウゴウゴ２ちゃんねる2014/03/10(月) 19:49:36.07ID:oV9IIj+P0>>313 No matter how the style of 2ch is, the truth that it is much better for the administrator to understand Japanese will never change. You said "Such problems has been caused by users who have some intention" It could happen because the used language was not Japanese that all of us could understand but English that only some of us could understand. It is necessary for the administrator to understand Japanese so as to prevent such problems caused by some intention. When you hope that the administrator of 2ch will never understand Japanese, it seems that you have some intention. Please destinguish problems caused by the administrator not understanding Japanese and problems caused by the administrator's personality. 0328Grape Ape ★2014/03/10(月) 19:50:12.10ID:???0>>324 Please scroll back a few threads. That is already old news. The big problem with their argument is the timing. They were added the the BBON after the attack, not before the attack.
Jimが死んだらそれまで。仕方無いじゃないか。 0330鉄クズ♂2014/03/10(月) 19:52:33.45ID:ddiYuD92i>>312 says Some companies and individuals have profited by abusing the copyrights; making 2ch comments into movies and books. 2ch might have rights to charge them. 0331動け動けウゴウゴ２ちゃんねる2014/03/10(月) 19:52:41.51ID:hssoO2eJ0>>326 ２ちゃんねるが何時来る人を選別した？
すべての板が嫌儲になるわけじゃない 俺はVIPとかニュー速のまとめ見ないからほとんど影響受けないし、 出入りのスレを毎日チェックすることはできないのでアフィは便利なんだ すべての板を転載禁止にしてそういうユーザーを排除することになる思想が 正しいと思えない そんな思想をこれだけの規模の掲示板で振り回されたらたまったもんじゃない ユーザーの2ch利用方法を縛らないでほしいと思ってる 0333動け動けウゴウゴ２ちゃんねる2014/03/10(月) 19:53:05.45ID:4PyZvU1i0>>321-322 Typical useless posts. 0334動け動けウゴウゴ２ちゃんねる2014/03/10(月) 19:53:25.98ID:q1FtP27z0>>285 Really? I think that that adress is dummy ,not exits. It is a good if you reach to even transfer.
転送でもあなたたちに届けば良い 0335Grape Ape ★2014/03/10(月) 19:54:13.83ID:???0>>330 The rabbit hole keeps getting deeper and deeper. 0336動け動けウゴウゴ２ちゃんねる2014/03/10(月) 19:54:16.93ID:eTDrcV2t0>>327 Hey boy, stop pestering me! 0337Grape Ape ★2014/03/10(月) 19:55:36.22ID:???0>>334 It is real. Ask Kyodo News, they have been there. 0338動け動けウゴウゴ２ちゃんねる2014/03/10(月) 19:55:54.96ID:zFqA3Sgv0 when do you change this ''>>http://qb5.2ch.net/test/read.cgi/operate/1394100363/''?
hurry up 0339あひるちゃん ◆2gpD9lKn5TVE 2014/03/10(月) 19:56:41.27ID:/JYeeL5e0>>319 what about making 2ch official web potal like yahoo! news? Haters against Matome bloggers at Affilina kingdoms have originated no respection for posters.
>>331 ネットが普及したことによる普遍化と２ちゃんの良さの乖離みたいなのがあるからな。 本来アフィブログやブログがない時代から２ちゃんがある訳だから 特定の連中煽ったり２ちゃんを外部からイジる連中と共闘する必要はない。 むしろ潰して別の方法をとりゃいいだけだし。 わりとココらへんの雰囲気づくりは大切。 0340動け動けウゴウゴ２ちゃんねる2014/03/10(月) 19:56:47.41ID:oV9IIj+P0>>336 困らせるも何も 俺の意見をfalseと言うから、俺はそれに対する反論をしたまで その反論に対する反論を重ねられないと言うのならば 俺の意見は正当性があったってことでおｋ？ 0341Grape Ape ★2014/03/10(月) 19:57:11.53ID:???0 I have to walk my dog, and get some cigarettes. すぐまどります、とばっこにいってきます。 0342動け動けウゴウゴ２ちゃんねる2014/03/10(月) 19:58:04.58ID:hssoO2eJ0>>329 取り巻き連中がいた過去の２ちゃんの方が安心感があった。 なので運営弄りなんて趣味の人が多数いた。
We have to consider how we make 2 channel attractive. 0344動け動けウゴウゴ２ちゃんねる2014/03/10(月) 19:58:19.63ID:SZsm5t//0 Westan Unionのフィリピン支店の所ですね遊びに行っていいですか？ 0345動け動けウゴウゴ２ちゃんねる2014/03/10(月) 19:58:38.02ID:P2Ej6VOf0 ニュー速+と東亜+の名無しはあのままかね。 あれを嫌儲活動の成果見たいに残しとくのが、逆にアフィまとめを正当化させてると思うが。 あれくらいなら引用だろってなって、どこからも金を取れないだろう。
Can't you undestand Engilish??? I said "show EVIDENCE" that is not old, Ongoing problem for us. do you neglect p2 user??? otherwise,we must begin consumer boycott for Ronin, in a big way. 0351動け動けウゴウゴ２ちゃんねる2014/03/10(月) 20:02:32.43ID:hssoO2eJ0>>339 特定の人間をイジる奴らも２ちゃんは受け入れて大きくなった。
訳知り顔でウロウロ出来る時代は終わったんだよ。 0353動け動けウゴウゴ２ちゃんねる2014/03/10(月) 20:04:48.07ID:BSlbqXza0>>348 No kidding. Don't treat as such a fuckin' nerds with fixed-handles. :-P 0354あひるちゃん ◆2gpD9lKn5TVE 2014/03/10(月) 20:05:33.53ID:/JYeeL5e0 正義か悪かって話しでもないからな。２ちゃん関連ビジネスで甘い汁を吸ってた人が まともな人達かと言われると魑魅魍魎だらけだ。
>>346 糞コテだから。わりと読んでる人はまともなレスするし、コテってのはこういうもんだ。 甘やかしたりすると東亜+みたいになるんでねーのかな。 0355動け動けウゴウゴ２ちゃんねる2014/03/10(月) 20:06:47.07ID:sHac7nmR0>>350 Hey, keep cool. Shouting abuse is meaningless. 0356◆c4YBFbOY1dq8 2014/03/10(月) 20:07:17.55ID:zpt/rhEa0 Mr.Jim Please tell me what happened >>318. 0357動け動けウゴウゴ２ちゃんねる2014/03/10(月) 20:07:35.26ID:eTDrcV2t0 During a transition period, we will face what we have never but it will be interesting. 0358鉄クズ♂2014/03/10(月) 20:07:44.19ID:ddiYuD92i>>351 ん？2chが工作員を『受け入れた』ことなんてあったのか？ 勝手に向こうから土足で堂々と踏み込んで来てはいるけど。 ステルス工作員なんてマルチポストや荒らしと同レベルだぞ。 0359動け動けウゴウゴ２ちゃんねる2014/03/10(月) 20:08:08.17ID:hssoO2eJ0>>349 発展って、暢気だなぁｗ
268 名前： Grape Ape ★ 投稿日： 2014/03/10(月) 19:21:36.25 ID:???0 >>267 こちろこそどもありがとうございます。 0364動け動けウゴウゴ２ちゃんねる2014/03/10(月) 20:09:56.17ID:svHvwLc10 いわば世代交代ってことだよ。 もう前とは違う。 変化を、現実を受け入れるんだ。 0365pemel2014/03/10(月) 20:10:39.56ID:JQVUzY8q0 thx Jim I found the ploblem the fix. They are confused their name of mentioned on the outside. If they wrote blank their name field, it,s a defalt name. For exanple. this bbs is [動け動けウゴウゴ２ちゃんねる] It's no problem. IF my name pemel, it's show pemel but the fix bbs is not so. They are forced to show your name with @転載禁止 http://viploader.net/desktop/src/vldesk008006.jpg I didn't wrote my name with @転載禁止 My name is pemel.It's not pemel@転載禁止 Please imagine you forced to show your name "Jim@coke is pepsi"or"jim@mac user" Biggest ploblem is force and coerce,I believe.
This bbs operate is not force and coerce. my name is pemel,and then it's show pemel but their bbs is force and coerce. Nobody like force and coerce. especially here is internet bbs 2ch Most inportant is name of selectable, I think 0366あひるちゃん ◆2gpD9lKn5TVE 2014/03/10(月) 20:10:55.80ID:/JYeeL5e0 +なんかのニュース板は全部たもんとかの好みで決まる この好みが２ちゃんのブログに転載される。 極小数の人がコントロールしてるのは変わらん。 嫌儲、今は+の植民地になったν速みたいな自由なとこは少ない。 0367動け動けウゴウゴ２ちゃんねる2014/03/10(月) 20:10:56.31ID:P2Ej6VOf0 ニュース系+板の記者スレ立てを三行引用にできないのなら、 2chもニュースソースサイトに上納するのがフェアトレードだと思うよ。 まとめから金を取るのはそれからだなあ。 過去ログサイトはアフィ広告付き公開にしたから、勝手に消えてくと思うが。
裸の王様は嫌儲問題と言うごく小さい問題ですら進展させられなくて手間取っている。 0370動け動けウゴウゴ２ちゃんねる2014/03/10(月) 20:12:59.55ID:BSlbqXza0>>359 終わるのなら終わるで仕方無いじゃないか？ 諸行無常 It's going to END ? Let it be. the impermanence of worldly things; All worldly things are transitory
and now, we have open2ch ! :-P 0371動け動けウゴウゴ２ちゃんねる2014/03/10(月) 20:13:48.67ID:hssoO2eJ0>>358 んじゃ拒否したのか？
